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my vandalism

Why was my edit a vandalism? I never heard reeds called sugar cane and i just looked in the game again and there it is clearly stated as reed. DerGraph 14:28, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Did you even bother to look at the Sugar Cane page? It tells you exactly why it's called that. ultradude25 (T|C) at 04:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Java virtual machine launcher

(UPDATE:i reinstalled java and it worked)(OLD:when i downloaded the first file of minecraft and opened it the java pop up said "Fatal exception occurred. Program will exit" i tried the other one too but it did same thing and im running windows vista) --CoolWool 11:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


Since you seem to be quite good with templates, I think it'd be appropriate to ask you.
At the moment looking at Template:Block, Template:Item and Template:Food you can see we're just manually using the different templates. This is all fine in theory, until you come to the parts of the template that are optional, therefore creating some lines with the same colour as the previous instead of alternating.

Basically, I was wondering if you can make the Block/row template automatically choose between #FFFFFF and #F9F9F9 based on which was used last, so templates keep the alternate background even if they're not using the optional fields that disappear when not filled in. ultradude25 (T|C) at 15:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

You mean that you want to use only Block/row and not Block/row and Block/row2 alternatively, cause optional fields will mess up the colors alternation?
I do not think it is possible in the Block/row template since a template does know nothing other than its given parameters. I think it will be possible to handle it in each template (block, item, food) if there is a way of using a variable kind of like a counter. But I don't know if this is possible… sorry – Scaler (t) 16:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Just thought I'd comment, a better way to go about this is using CSS selectors to color every nth row differently. The only way to implement CSS selectors on MediaWiki (AFAIK) is by editing this theme's CSS. Ideally the code would be:
.infobox:nth-child(even) { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
This should negate the need for a secondary row template. The only issue with this is obviously this isn't supported in IE8. At this point however it's trivial to care about IE. Hope this helps! --Gnu32 14:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
I would like to see this happen, if anyone can put up with IE then they can put up with not having an alternate background colour. ultradude25 (T|C) at 16:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Haha. I would, but MediaWiki: templates are locked to SysOp's only (or bureaucrats, I forget which). --Gnu32 16:22, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
How about that I can edit it. I just assumed it would be locked so only bureaus can edit it.
So does this affect all infoboxes, or only if you give the div the "infobox" style? ultradude25 (T|C) at 16:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Fucksticks, my bad, wrong code. Use this:
.alternaterows tr:nth-child(even) { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
--Gnu32 16:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Also this will only work with tables classed "alternaterows". I guess you could keep the .alternaterows:nth-child(even) line for div-powered boxes, as long as each "row" is a div-tag within. --Gnu32 16:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
  • facepalm* do excuse my slow upkeep, I now see what you've done there. Good call. --Gnu32 16:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I already figured that, it's called alternatecells. And it works alright. Only thing I noticed is it seems to take into account other cells that aren't using the class, so example Gold Ore's first cell is grey, whereas Bedrock's first cell is white (because it hasn't got an inventory image). Anyway to fix this? ultradude25 (T|C) at 17:00, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Bugger... not sure what to do with that other than rewriting infoboxes so that the outer box and title is DIV powered and then the tabular data is table'd, so the first row will always be first. I can do this if you'd like. --Gnu32 17:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

If you can do it then go right ahead. ultradude25 (T|C) at 17:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Right, I've rewritten Template:block and it seems to be working ok. Just one more teeny-weeny little tweak, change nth-child(even) to nth-child(odd). I'll apply changes to Block now and check all over for any issues. If all is well, I'll rewrite the rest of the infoboxes with the better div skeleton format thingwhatyoucallit tomorrow. --Gnu32 19:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Looking good. I've changed the css to odd. ultradude25 (T|C) at 19:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

A belated thank-you;

For this. Thank you much for spotting that mistake. I asked Quat about it sometime back, but you were the one that finally fixed it.— dαlus Contribs 08:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Which change in that edit where you referring to exactly? ultradude25 (T|C) at 09:48, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
The closing span tag.— dαlus Contribs 07:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


The video I put up for Fishing Rod. I don't see how it's breaking this site's rules. I mean other than slight self-promoting. I did upload the video, but someone needed to. What happened? --42ndIcicle 14:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, the other video on some other page that you also got rid of...I can see why that was removed. Sorry. xD

Rule 16A. It's clearly explained in text what to do and what happens, don't need a video to tell people that it pulls NPCs towards you. ultradude25 (T|C) at 16:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Uploading Templates

Hi! I would like to upload a template, how do I do this? I've tried Template/YaYaBinksMinecraft. I need to shorten the superscript (a.k.a HTML) you gave me.

 YaYaBinksMinecraft  Woot JokeCraft v2.0!! 17:34, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Templates in the Template namespace are designated by a colon, not a slash, but what kind of template are you trying to create? -- Wynthyst 19px talk 22:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Quick heads-up:

No more infinite bans on people unless they're obvious spambots, alright? Also, please don't disable people's ability to send email while they're blocked. Thanks!--Quatroking - MCWiki Administrator 22:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Right-o. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 00:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

How do you render the images of the blocks?

I would like to know. That way I might be able to render them using a custom skin for use in a website. C: --Earthiverse 04:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Blender and UV mapping. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 04:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Use block/item icons

Hi. I was wondering if I could use your block/item icons for a Norwegian Minecraft Wiki. :) --Dr. Weir 19:08, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Only if its part of this wiki. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 23:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
No, it's not part of this wiki. --Dr. Weir 23:54, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Well it should be if you plan on using any content from this wiki. Then if its successful you get it featured as a subdomain here. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 23:57, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Then I gues I gotta sit down and make the icons myself already made a icon for the tree trunk :) --Dr. Weir 00:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

See also on templates

I dislike this idea. What about the pages that use multiple nav templates? You then get duplicated See also sections. Changes like these really need to be discussed and agreed to before they are applied to templates that are used on large numbers of pages. oh I'm just dumb at 5 am. -- Wynthyst 19px talk 10:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


Please do not recommend users use adsblockers on the wiki. At least not on prominent pages like the community portal. Ad views are how Curse makes their money to run and maintain the servers that these sites live on. Thanks! -- Wynthyst 19px talk 11:15, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I am aware of that, I however will not support people having to put up with annoying pop up ads or anything that takes over your screen. I'm fine with people having ads, just as long as they don't interfere with browsing, I'm also very OCD about neatness so ads generally annoy me unless they are well placed into the page design. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:19, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
The only ads that any of the Curse wikis should be displaying are the top and bottom banner ads. If users are seeing other types of ads, they are most likely infected with some sort of malware that is creating these popups. If such ads are being reported anti malware scans are the appropriate recommendation, and if people are getting other types of ads, they should be directed to take screenshots (it's also possible that popup ads are being generated from other websites they have open in their browsers while they are reading MCW). -- Wynthyst 19px talk 11:23, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm just going by what I've heard, personally I haven't had any bad ads on this site. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Comment template

 Done, How's it look? Admittedly I could have made better icons but it works nicely for now. --Gnu32 15:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! I'll try to find some better icons for you. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 02:19, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Excellent. Admittedly I was trying to go for a minecraft look but this is better. Glad I could help :3 --Gnu32 02:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I could tell. It's quite hard to fit a good looking icon into a 16x16 space while using no partially transparent pixels. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 03:17, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
I love you. Do excuse the long delay in getting msgbox up and running. --Gnu32 18:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
What a coincidence, I love me too! –ultradude25 (T|C) at 19:08, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


What program do you use to make isometric renderings of blocks? I use maya, but its pretty hard to make it isometricMoonBeans 01:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Blender. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 02:19, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


I have to head to the pub now but I managed to get this template finally done. Change/fix/delete as you see fit then either mass-apply to all the box templates or leave the task for me. G'nite bro, --Gnu32 20:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I'll do a quick look around for any. Random page, here I come! –ultradude25 (T|C) at 20:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I saw this on Kizzycocoa's talk page.

Subject: ALERT

We are under attack by a spammer. He deletes content. He goes by the name Hftutyuhioygo and Krftufjikkyuolu; as in he has multiple aliases. Please find someone to IP-BAN him. And finally Monty251; he won't stop posting about his crafting app everywhere. Drenay 19:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, as your an admin and Kizzys not, I'd IP ban the spammer. –The preceding unsigned comment was added by YaYaBinksMinecraft (Talk|Contribs) 19:13, 13 February 2011. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Both those accounts were created and used from different IP addresses. They could easily be different people, or just someone with a dynamic IP, which is most people. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:57, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Category/template casing

Was supposed to bring this up before but it slipped my mind >_< I wanted to propose making all categories and templates un-CamelCased as per convention on Wikipedia and just so they're easier to directly go to by url, etc. What do you think? --Gnu32 14:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

As long as they're all following the same case I don't care. Kind in mind it's a fairly lengthy process to do it. You have to create a new category, copy the description across, delete the old one and then modify any templates using it. You can't simply move the page over redirect and then fix up any templates later. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 14:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm willing to concentrate this into a bot-powered task (all planned beforehand). On a somewhat related note, do you have the power to assign users to bot groups? --Gnu32 14:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Bureaus only. Otherwise I would've done it as soon as I saw it on the noticeboard. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 14:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

The box width

of 283px combined with the padding was presenting the text on 3 lines. It looked ridiculous. That's really a problem with hard coded widths. -- Wynthyst 19px talk 02:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

It's not for me, I measured it down to the exact pixel before it pushed it onto a new line. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 02:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, I'm using Firefox with no alteration to the fonts, and it pushes it to a separate line for me. I would much prefer these were not hard sized, but if they are going to be, give it the benefit of the doubt to make it work appropriately for everyone. Btw... using the justification "it works for me" is basically telling me I'm lying, or that it's a problem on my end, don't do that. -- Wynthyst 19px talk 03:14, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't see any disadvantages to them being "hard sized", since it's using max-width it will get smaller if it doesn't fit on the page, but won't get bigger than necessary. I never said you're lying, but I thought it could be either, you're using a different browser and that is calculating the sizing incorrectly (in that case we'd need to adjust all templates to fit that browsers fault) or it is on your side for example you're using a different default font/font size etc, and had forgot about it, in which case I don't think the templates should be adjusted just to fit your personal settings. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 04:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Events inappropriate ?

Hi, and I beg your pardon for the double submission. It seems that deleted pages disappear from my contributions log as well, so how could've I known ? I do not see where I can get to the deletion reason either. Would you tell me if the whole content is inappropriate for this wiki ? So you might as well delete :Category:Events altogether, just thought I'd mention. --Missingpiece 13:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

You can check the deletions log. I was under the impression that this was simply a useless page that really has no place on a wiki. I believe the events template is for official events, like Minecraftcon 2010 but then this brings up the issue of what is classified as "official". Seeing as the event is run by Machinima, and not Notch himself I would call it unofficial. However, since I'm not sure I have asked another admin's opinion on it. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 04:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
We need to always remember that while our primary function is to document the game, we are also here to support the community by providing easy access to information. I don't have a problem with having an overall Events page with individual events given subpages. They should clearly define if they are Mojang sponsored events or Community/player sponsored events. We do have a section of the Main Page dedicated to links about events. I would like to see any individual event pages maintaining the same style as any other article, no wild backgrounds or flashing gifs... that being said, I think this is a discussion that should be linked on the Community Portal as a Request for comments. Let's see how the rest of the community feels about it. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 05:27, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of Grappling Hook Image

Hi there!

Just an FYI, the Grappling hook image was being used in a Mod page, which is why it was uploaded. I think it was being used here: Mods/Grappling hook --Jonnay 05:23, 17 February 2011 (UTC)Jonnay

It wasn't actually linked anywhere, although I can see why they wanted it moved there. I'm thinking I may need a separate template for mod crafting images so they are not confused with official recipes. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 06:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Totally unnecessary to use separate templates as long as the pages themselves are categorized appropriately. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 11:29, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Great! Conversely, we can have the filenames of the output side prefixed with "Mod" if you like, either way. (there is an example here: User:Jonnay/Crafting Grid with Mods--Jonnay 07:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Question about your block images

Can you explain how you produce your block images? Are they rendered from ingame textures? -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 21:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, they're made in blender using UVMapping. I have a custom terrain.png with green grass and leaves, lava and the portal texture.
For things like sign where it's using lots of segments of textures, I simply spawn one in MC and closely examine the texture to try to find where it's coming from. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 21:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
We need to start adding appropriate license tags to images when they are uploaded. If they are based of stuff directly taken from the game they need to be tagged as Mojang images. If not, you should decide how you wish to license them. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 21:47, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
The texture is pieced together from various versions of Minecraft, however the modelling and UVMapping is all done by me. If I were to licence them, I would allow anyone to use them for anything (other than other wiki's not under this domain) just so long as they ask and preferable give credits where appropriate. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 22:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks ultradude :D -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 22:23, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Use of your block icons

I'm working on a Minecraft reference app. I need icons for all the blocks, and yours just happen to be perfect! Could I possibly use your block images in my app?

StoreClock 21:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing, though I would appreciate some kind of credit for them. You could just link to my wiki profile in the program if you want. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 21:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks so much! can you send me the high-res images please?
StoreClock 22:07, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
They're all rendered at 150px to fit the wiki, if you want custom sizes you'll need to tell me so I can render them at that size. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 22:11, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I think 200px, and 400px for iPhone 4 (2x larger display resolution) Thanks again!
StoreClock 22:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 Doneultradude25 (T|C) at 00:14, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
You are awesome :D
StoreClock 00:22, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Old Glass texture

Hey Ultradude,

I have made a replica of the old Glass texture: File:OldGlass1.PNG from this picture from Notch:


Mind making a render of it? Somebody500 22:36, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I didn't even know there was another glass texture. File:Old Glass.pngultradude25 (T|C) at 01:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


It seems you now know more about parser functions than I do. In fact, several of the users here seem to have that ability. I don't think I can be useful here anymore.— dαlus Contribs 07:47, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

As an aside, would it be possible to add myself to the group that can make changes without having to see a preview? I asked quat awhile back but I'm quite sure he's forgotten.— dαlus Contribs 07:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Slab animations

I uploaded my animations, and then when I turned around to link them they were gone! Turns out you beat me to the punch by 10 minutes. :) That's fine though, I was working with a ghetto source for the wooden slab, your render is a lot crisper.

Although, I'd suggest you tone down the frame cycling to 1 sec each, like the one for Wood. For some reason the fast cycling on the block icons is more distracting than it is in the crafting recipes. D0sboots 09:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I wanted to try to keep it in sync with any other animations on the page. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 09:07, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Actually it runs a lot faster than I intended, probably because when you open a GIF file, it opens it in IE which displays GIFs a lot slower than Firefox does. :/ –ultradude25 (T|C) at 09:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


Wanna fix the community portal? -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 02:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

What's broken about it? –ultradude25 (T|C) at 03:40, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Navbox "broken"

Something went wrong with the {{navbox}} template: the first link in the title bar is broken (see here).

I've looked at your last edit but I don't understand why it doesn't work anymore… – Scaler (t) 10:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Strange... I'll try revering to before my edit and see if it works again. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:11, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Ok, found the cause. Template:Transclude threw a fit when I added the doc template, seems the start noinclude tag being on a new line screwed it up for some reason. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:21, 26 February 2011 (UTC)


I hearby award this
to the user

Congratulations! You've received my neon badge. I hearby award this to you for your splendid work on the templates and partaking in a massive template demolition derby, massive work on documentation and effort to make the wiki an easier puzzle to put together. Keep at it bro (and thanks for also helping test WikiChanges in the meantime). Yours, --Gnu32 10:50, 27 February 2011 (UTC)