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::Wouldn't art resources mean like the terrain.png file or the creeper texture? And doesn't "free to do whatever you want" mean no copyright whatsoever? :S [http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Tjb0607 [[File:Tjb0607SigIcon.png]]] 06:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::Wouldn't art resources mean like the terrain.png file or the creeper texture? And doesn't "free to do whatever you want" mean no copyright whatsoever? :S [http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Tjb0607 [[File:Tjb0607SigIcon.png]]] 06:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::"Free to do what you want" does not mean "we rescind our copyright claim". Mojang is the copyright holder; they simply choose to allow you to do what you will with the screenshots you take. They could similarly choose to revoke that ability today (though I don't know enough about copyright law to be able to say what that would mean for preexisting screenshots). <span style="white-space:nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 19:43, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::"Free to do what you want" does not mean "we rescind our copyright claim". Mojang is the copyright holder; they simply choose to allow you to do what you will with the screenshots you take. They could similarly choose to revoke that ability today (though I don't know enough about copyright law to be able to say what that would mean for preexisting screenshots). <span style="white-space:nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 19:43, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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== Hai Gnu, long time, no see. ==
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It's '''Club Alpha'''. How's life? [[User:CompuHacker|CompuHacker]] 12:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 12:30, 21 February 2011

Sorry mate, new to the wiki page, just trying to comtribute. I'll be more careful. --NightClubbin56 21:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC) NightClubbin56

'sall good, you're not in trouble. Just be wary of the rules n'all. Cheers and welcome to the wiki! --Gnu32 21:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Wow, what a useful user page! Thanks for documenting all the templates, you've done a grand job there :-) --DannyF1966 16:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

lawl ty :3 not being arsed to get a job helps. --Gnu32 17:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Screenshot Crash talk page info

It's not a bug, it's a feature you don't have enough ram to use it seems. HUGE resource hit. Thevdude 17:19, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

AWB

Ohhh I'm so irritated now:P I've been trying to get AWB working on several Curse sites for a couple of months with no luck! Can I please pick your brain for some help with it? -- Wynthyst User Wynthyst sig icon talk 17:49, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Jesus christ, I've been nervous enough using this software on here while having to fear an admin messaging me with a warning and impending block. Haha, uhh there's not really much to do for it other than in Options > Preferences, go to the Site tab and set the Project to "custom". The url is simply "www.minecraftwiki.net/". Make sure you put your login details into a profile via File > Log in/Profiles. That should sort you out :D --Gnu32 17:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
You may like to create a bot account specifically for AWB editing; you can then assign (or get assigned, depending on your privileges) a bot flag to the account, which will keep edits made from it from flooding the recentchanges list and people's watchlists (though they'll still get email notifications, depending on how their preferences are set up). This is what I did on Wikia, with Dinobot1000. =D ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:28, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Brilliant idea actually. Flooding the RC's the last thing I wanted to do and I still have Template:Block to update (although i'm thinking of just keeping the parameter named data1). I'll do that, thank you. Sorry for the flood! --Gnu32 18:31, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
No problem. =) Speaking of the infoboxes, I've updated {{Block}} and {{Item}} to fix some potential bugs (mostly in regards to default parameter values), remove the need for the <!-- --> phantom newline fix, and make it all a bit more readable. I didn't touch the old data1 code block on {{Block}}; there be dragons. *shiver* ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Cheers for that, those HTML comments are really annoying (no thanks to mediawiki for auto-paragraphing). I've got the cleaner code ready to apply when I've found all the blocks that need multiple data values and updated them :D --Gnu32 18:42, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Cool. Generally, the way to avoid the problem is to have the starting braces for a ParserFunction on the same line as the ending braces for the previous ParserFunction, instead of putting each on its own line. With proper (or at least consistent) code indentation, this can also help demonstrate the "flow" of the code, making it easier to see what's going on. =D ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Bot suggestions

  1. I recommend you have a Blacklist page, where the bot will automatically ignore any pages that are linked there.
  2. I'd like to see the bot be capable of correcting links. So this means fixing links and transclusion links so they are not using redirecting names, and fixing syntax so it has the shortest form. (eg [[Tool]]s instead of [[Tool|Tools]])
  3. Allow the bot to fix line breaks on talk pages so there is a gap after every new indentation (like what I've done above in this edit). This makes it easier to edit the conversation as you don't have signatures mixed in with it. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 01:01, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  1. AFAIK, AWB doesn't support a blacklist like that, though you can save a text file with a list of pages to ignore and use the "List comparer" tool to remove those titles from the "Make list" list (though it has been a while since I've really used AWB, and I never got really deep into configuration, so maybe there is such a feature in it). A copy of this blacklist could then be saved on-wiki, and whenever it's updated, (manually) re-downloaded to update the offline list.
  2. If I remember correctly, auto-bypassing of redirects is limited to accounts with admin privileges (and I don't remember how to do it automatically either), though it is possible to manually maintain a list of redirects and the page/template names they should be replaced with. Link syntax simplification is part of the "General fixes" setting.
  3. Again, not sure if AWB has any features or settings capable of directly doing this, and it would be very difficult to do if not - you could build a regex to do so, but it would be rather complicated and you'd have to check every replace to make sure whitespace isn't getting inserted in the wrong places. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:46, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply and action to all this, hectic weekend. I'll create the blacklist and load it into AWB as a filter every time I do a run. Also, AWB will automatically apply (not save until my say so) fixes to wikilinks so that their syntax is cleaned up and unnecessary pipes are removed, as like you've been doing. As for talk pages, there may be some automatic functionality on here, if not i'll just whip up a regex to fix talk pages. I'll make the blacklist now but I need sleep so everything else comes tomorrow. Cheers ultradude :3 (and cheers dinoguy for clarification) --Gnu32 01:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm not so keen on the talk page edits to add spaces. This could potentially ping a lot of watchlists needessly. -- Wynthyst User Wynthyst sig icon talk 05:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Either way, it's going to be doing plenty of watchlist/recent changes spamming; that's why it's marked as a bot, you just set it to ignore bot edits in your watchlist/recent changes (Which I think it does by default). –ultradude25 (T|C) at 07:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, I don't think I should include User talk pages on cleanup. Especially considering that would trigger new message warnings (unless that only works with added content). Otherwise, yes, as long as the account is marked bot the edits shouldn't spam Recent Changes unless the user explicitly shows bot edits. --Gnu32 10:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
The bot should be completely ignoring the User and User talk namespaces. It's up to the owner to fix those up. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 10:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Will do. Also, do you go on IRC? *curious* --Gnu32 10:48, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I used to, but now that miney is gone I don't bother. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 12:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Edit War

I know you are just doing your job, infact I'm a respected crat for a few wikis. Please realize this was not an edit war. A single revert, and a new/helpful version does not come near to scratching the surface of "war". The newest version of that upload will now continue to the current version. --Imdill3 23:15, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

mark up

Trojam:

  • "(Any form of getting it which is not legit IS cheating. Also it looks horrible.)"
  • "(I don't think you understand. ANY way of getting it which isn't legit IS cheating (even on servers), which includes the /give command. The way it looks is just an opinion but that the font doesn't match with the data value numbers is a fact.)"
  • "(It isn't, actually. It's Verdana, 12, no anti-aliasing. Since you don't seem to be letting go of the sentence, I just changed it a tad bit for easier understanding and changed the font. )"

These comments are influencing argument by Trojam. --Imdill3 23:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I think it'd be a better idea if you discussed this newest version with User:Trojam first before uploading it. Regardless of your role in other wikis in the past, if you're simply uploading versions that the creator or other editors don't agree with then this can come off as abrasive and disruptive. Also please know that I don't mean to berate you, if you feel I am then I apologize. You are not in trouble :3 --Gnu32 23:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree on the current version of the file, no more discussion is needed. However, I believe your comment stands with Trojam too. --Imdill3 05:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

And he wanted the last word. "(It's been 2 days, picture hasn't changed... Did I upload the correct one?)" Now hes uploading useless ditto images to continue an argument (or so he thinks is one). I'm not taking any blame for this, this shows hes the one with a war interest. --Imdill3 16:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
There is actually an issue with images where uploading a new revision takes 30 minutes to take effect for most people, which causes confusion. He was referring to this and did not intend this as a hostile gesture. Please calm down and continue the discussion on his talk page but in a more civil manner please. Thank you, --Gnu32 16:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

We need to move to a better dialog template

Thanks for pointing out the need for a better dialog box. Agreed. I didn't find any, so I put the Note template in here. Simply tagging deletion without suggesting an improvement is a bit of a bummer, though. Did you look at the page, which I used it in ? Please also check Tutorials/Beginner's_guide#The_essentials and make a better suggestion for formatting the "Note". --Missingpiece 10:26, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm really sorry about this. I was working on a standard dialog but then RL came in. I'll try not to be brash next time, I appreciate this happening cause it's highlighted the need for a standard template. --Gnu32 16:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Deleting templates

If you're gonna put a delete tag on templates, you might want to use <noinclude>{{delete}}</noinclude> instead of the normal delete template. --JonTheMon 22:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

In these cases I was lazy, knowing that these templates wern't used. Thank you though, this is still useful to keep in mind. --Gnu32 22:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Template help

So I've made some modifications to the crafting grid template in my test area. Basically it changes the 65 number images to use a single sprite sheet. Now it seems to work perfectly, except for the fact that entering nothing into |OA= makes the #ifexpr's flip out because they're not getting their full equation. I can't for life of me get it to just put 1 or 0 in when nothing is entered. Anything you can do?

Oh and you may want to temporarily copy the workbench CSS (it's labelled) from my Custom CSS into yours so the numbers are positioned correctly. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 21:13, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Funny, I was going to suggest this earlier today. Good call, I'll have a look at it in a bit. I've not used ifexpr's yet but I'll investigate. Cheers,--Gnu32 21:27, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Alright, well now that that has been applied to both grids, I have 64 grid numbers to delete. :S Is there any way to multidelete/nuke them? –ultradude25 (T|C) at 02:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 Done. Had to do it the ol' fashion way, and now I have a hurting hand. :/ –ultradude25 (T|C) at 03:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Shit, sorry bro. Completely forgot about this :s I should set you up with AutoWikiBot. It doesn't completely automate deletion but it makes it 10x quicker using just keyboard shortcuts. Will be useful for next time. --Gnu32 08:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I already have it set up, I just don't know how to use it. Plus I should probably grab a bot account to use it on instead of this one, although then I guess it'd need admin privileges as well. :/ –ultradude25 (T|C) at 08:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Pretty sure Wyn will oblige this, especially since she has a lot of bot tasks lined up atm (which I'm not very good at getting round to fulfilling). Wouldn't hurt to have an admin-account bot. In AWB, it'd be a case of getting the list of files/pages (if it's all categorized, that's easy, otherwise some notepad work is needed) and then it seems just pressing ALT+D and Enter (when a comment box presumably pops up) for each page. If you want, I'm on IRC now for advice/stuff. --Gnu32 08:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

(gnu64 bot issue) Mojang Copyright on Images

Your bot is editing in-game screenshots to say that they are copyright by mojang, but, according to the mojang terms & conditions, it states:

"You're free to do whatever you want with screenshots and videos of the game, but don't just rip art resources and pass them around." -Mojang Terms & Conditions

Please stop the bot from saying that screenshots are copyrighted by Mojang, because they aren't. File:Tjb0607SigIcon.png 20:51, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

What do you think "don't just rip art resources and pass them around" means? You can post them or do anything else you want with them, but, Mojang holds the copyright on them by default and that needs to be attributed. -- Wynthyst User Wynthyst sig icon talk 00:29, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Per Wynthyst; we're just covering bases here. --Gnu32 01:59, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Wouldn't art resources mean like the terrain.png file or the creeper texture? And doesn't "free to do whatever you want" mean no copyright whatsoever? :S File:Tjb0607SigIcon.png 06:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
"Free to do what you want" does not mean "we rescind our copyright claim". Mojang is the copyright holder; they simply choose to allow you to do what you will with the screenshots you take. They could similarly choose to revoke that ability today (though I don't know enough about copyright law to be able to say what that would mean for preexisting screenshots). ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:43, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Hai Gnu, long time, no see.

It's Club Alpha. How's life? CompuHacker 12:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)