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Shouldn't it say stone is a renewable resource? It is listed as one on the Renewable resource page. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.54.79.43 (Talk) 16:36, 20 February 2012‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Does anyone know how much stone there is per chunk on average? I need to know to find out how much coal ore there is per Chunk so I can finish my ore exchange rate. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.33.143.250 (Talk) 10:15, 20 June 2012. Please sign your posts with ~~~~

In 1.2.5, there's an average of 10,876 stone and 136 coal ore per chunk. -- Orthotope 10:34, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Smooth Stone[edit]

Is there a reason why some call it Smooth Stone?--85.27.161.163 16:25, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Probably because it looks smoother than other stone blocks, similarly to Smooth Sandstone. This is the only explanation that seems plausible to me. smwforever45 16:45, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. Guess we'll need a new Smelting section for Smelting: Stone-specifically; into Smoothstone-specifically (from-Stone).
In 1.14 Village & Pillage Update. Time to get Smoother than Stone! Yilante 12 /16 /18 9:27 a.m. 76.209.248.192 17:27, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
A convention back in the Beta days of Minecraft to differentiate Stone from Cobblestone was to call Stone "Smooth Stone", the reason being Cobblestone was used more abundantly than Stone was -- in recipes, building, and etc. Now there is an even more "smooth" version of Stone, so it makes sense to pass the nomenclature on as well. Though I like to think this is the reason, smwforever45 is probably correct and I am most likely wrong. EDIT: This was back in 2013, around 1.7, before smooth stone was a thing. As such, the 1.14 update is not relevant. I took the liberty of striking it out (rather than editing it out) of my reply for transparency. 68.104.108.213 15:45, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Split Smooth Stone[edit]

Why is it even on this page? -PancakeIdentity (talk) 03:25, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

 Neutral On one hand, Sandstone, Smooth Sandstone, and Chiseled sandstone are on one page. On the other hand, Stone and Smooth stone have different uses in crafting. 184.181.102.188 08:08, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Because all other smooth block got put on their non-smooth version page when they were split off from slabs.
 Very opposed stone and smooth stone's properties are idential, just the drop and methods of obtaining aren't, which can be said for basically every item sharing a page with another item including (mossy) cobblestone (which also has different usages, and recently got merged).–Preceding unsigned comment was added by FVbico (talkcontribs) at 8:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~
How I see it, Smooth Stone and Stone are as different as Stone and Cobblestone. They have different crafting recipes, different break times, different uses. Unlike Smooth Sandstone, Smooth Stone is used in crafting recipes, i.e. armour stand, and stone is used in separate recipes, whereas smooth sandstone and sandstone are simply decorative blocks.--Gingernotaninja (talk) 05:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
They actually don't have different breaking times. And recipe usage is the case for literally every article that covers multiple blocks, even Slab, which actually does have different breaking times. FVbico (talk) 05:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 Neutral about this. I'm not opposed to this being split, but if it were we'd probably have to split polished granite/diorite/andesite from their base blocks, and many other such splits would likely also have to take place. - User-12316399 (talk) 11:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 Strong support - currently I'm of the mentality that every single block on the wiki should be split as far as possible, to as far as it actually makes sense (attached stems would still stay on the same pages as stems, but I'd be fine with one page per variant of sandstone). As such, this split is completely welcome from me. - User-12316399 (talk) 14:40, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 DefinitelyThe simplest reason for splitting the two is for confusion remedy. Like others have said, the both blocks are used in entirely different crafting recipes, and when you scroll down to look at said recipes, it can be confusing when one crafting block says "Smooth Stone" or "Stone" then turns out to be two totally different results for said item. It just makes more sense for something that has a different recipe and use to have its own page, rather than be clumped together and confuse people. I mean when I first looked at the page, as I am sure many else have done at first, I was looking for a specific thing (Staircases in my case) and realized after about 10 minutes of looking at the recipes that all the ones I saw were for regular Stone.. The argument can be said for something like how Clay has its own page from Clay balls as an item and a difference from Terracotta Blocks. The same can be said for Terracotta and Glazed Terracotta having their own pages from each other. I motion for them to split Stone from Smooth Stone as well just for the sake having less confusion on which block makes which items. TheRoseBrigade (talk) 17:53, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
"It just makes more sense for something that has a different recipe and use to have its own page" so literally everything that shares pages should split according to you (not joking, literally every flower, all stone bricks, all tools, everything has different crafting usages). FVbico (talk) 18:05, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Okay I'll rephrase, since you're taking it super literal. Anything with it's own unique sets of recipes. Like how Stone does Pressure plates, and Smooth stone makes Blast Furnaces, as examples. It doesn't make sense that I can find the recipe to a Repeater on the same page as a recipe to a Blast Furnace when neither of the recipes use the same block/material. If I look up something on Stone I'd like to find Stone only items, not Smooth Stone, and vice versa. Smooth stone is essentially the counterpart to Wooden Planks. To make Wood Planks you need Logs. To make Smooth Stone, you need Stone. Planks has its own Page, why can't Smooth Stone?
Edit: As another good example: Wood Logs and Stripped Wood Logs are not separate because they are essentially the same block. They look different but function the same. You craft the same things from them, and you do the same things with them. Stone and Smooth Stone do not have the same functions. I can't break a Smooth Stone block and get Cobblestone, I can't craft a Furnace with the Smooth Stone, or a pressure plate. I cannot make a Blast Furnace with normal Stone. All Flowers become dyes, albeit different Dyes, but that is why they are together because it is essentially the same and simpler to have them in one spot. However, when 2 blocks have something wildly different, that the other one doesn't make they shouldn't be together. TheRoseBrigade (talk) 19:09, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Read my reply to the original post. One example: mossy cobblestone and cobblestone recently got merged, I cannot make tools with mossy cobblestone, nor furnaces, and they get obtained differently, but that's where the differences end. It's exactly the same with smooth stone and stone, you obtain them differently, and the crafting usage and drop are different, but literally everything else about the blocks is the same. FVbico (talk) 19:18, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
While this particular thread is only about Stone/Smooth Stone, I do feel Cobblestone/Mossy Cobblestone shouldn't be together either, for the same reasons I mentioned. But by the logic that uses, then Dirt, Grass Blocks, and Coarse Dirt should all be in the same Page since they are essentially the same with only a few minor differences. With that logic, Clay Blocks should be merged with Terracotta AND Glazed Terracotta as well. Being honest if you think on it the only reason why Smooth Stone and Mossy Cobblestone are lumped with their non-unique counterparts are simply because of the name. However this discussion is purely for the splitting of Stone/Smooth Stone, so I will only address the discussed topic here. TheRoseBrigade (talk) 19:51, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Cracked Stone - no longer available?[edit]

Previously 'cracked stone' was created by heating stone blocks in a furnace. Not that action makes smooth stone.

The cracked stone icon is still in the game - does anyone know how to create it or is it merely available when found in the wild?

note: cracked stone NOT bricks

Cracked stone was never a thing. FVbico (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)