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Scary mob? Really?

I doubt this is the supposed Scary Mob. Fish arent really scary –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Johnthedragon (Talk|Contribs) 17:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Google? Dctrjons 12:12, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

(Edit by another person) Actually, silverfish are a type of wood eating insect, that also eats paper and clothes. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by PkmnTrainermatt (Talk|Contribs) 00:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

...sugar,starches. Can make a mess of cereals. Not sure if this may be a crop problem. Dctrjons 12:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
You know what this means... griefers in single player. --Joejr50 17:13, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Welp, apparantly this: Enderman is the scary mob :D --HexZyle 03:59, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Nope, go to Talk:Enderman to see why it isn't. - DarkAuk 15:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Idk about you guys, but between this and the (Sl)endermen i'm gonna start living underground...in a stone house...that is surrounded by a lava moat...and many traps... and with as much cookies as I dare go out and make. :s I r be scared for my wooden house of awesomeness. --Darkness Prevails 23:07, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Not a fish

I doubt this will be a fish: silverfish is a well known house bug and the texture closely resembles the segmented, conical body of that little creature while at the same time not looking like a fish at all. I think that the "fish theory" in this article is unlikely enough to deserve deletion.--Wedhro 17:38, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Thats what I think too. It is scary for girls, but not for all scary :) Kurtextrem 18:16, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Presumed that it can only eat through wood. Notch might give it...a let's say, biological upgrade? STONE EATING MONSTERS MWAHAHA! --HexZyle 05:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

3D structure

Would be interesting to see whether a viable 3D structure of this mob could be created using blender or something. --SpitfireBro 18:00, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

That's quite impossible with the information we have now (just the texture). It's really hard to tell what shape something is, just by looking at a texture. The model doesn't need to be "foldable" from the texture, the texture's sides might not be next to each other in the model, since it is possible to map the dots of the model to correspond to any point in the texture. I'd say that is mission impossible, and we need to wait for the official release... --TheKax 07:09, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
After taking a closer look at the texture, I'd say it might be cylindrical (well, in a blocky way of minecraft) with different radius parts... I put together this kind pf small estimate of it's shape... Just a word of warning, this might be horribly wrong. And it's ascii art, so the wiki formatting screws it up, so open the edit mode, I put it into a hidden comment below to spare your eyes from the jumble. --TheKax 07:19, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
PS. and this might not have gone horribly wrong, since silverfish is an actual insect, and it is similar in shape as my ascii picture (again, look in the edit mode!): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lepisma_saccharina_1a.JPG hope this sums it up. --TheKax 07:24, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Just use the exact same folding that's used for every other mob and it works out nicely.
It basically makes a nice silverfish shape, an antenna, a 1x2x2 shape, and a bunch of haphazard little squares that will probably form legs. FatherToast 01:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
That means it can sneak through your doggy doors, along with many other shaped openings designed for keeping all other mobs out. Watch out! --HexZyle 05:53, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reason it's scary

Silverfish are supposed to eat wood right? aren't houses made of wood? Ray 22:16, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

no. designer and new player's houses are made of wood.
also, there is a fish called a silverfish. --Kizzycocoa 07:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Going to request citation on that one, maybe in a story, but I know of know fish properly called a silverfish. This does not mean it won't possibly be a hybrid.Dctrjons 12:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
I spoke to notch and got info about silverfish, if this info I got from him is right silverfish will be in the desert he said it is a small and pestie thing cause it can spawn any where even in your home thats if its in the desert and if your mining in the desert be careful cause they live in 1x2 block tunnels, but they not only spawn in the desert he may also have different types like water and forest so this will change alot people won't always be running in side any more they will be always killing unless you put a ring of fire around your self and stand there for ever watching them burn. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Hamhams110 (Talk|Contribs) 05:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~
Thankyou, nameless. (Please sign your posts) NPC houses have rooves made of wood --HexZyle 05:55, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
The nameless comments smells trollish. Don't believe everything you read online... --| TheKax | Talk 12:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes I know. I tend not to believe, or even bother reading people who use run-on sentances. --HexZyle 03:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Yea, people who use run-on sentences are either 8 years old or are of... Dampened intelligence. It's also the trademark of people who have no idea what they're talking about. Mybabypetghast 22:05, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Possibly tied in with mushroom biome

Silver fish could be a new mob that spawns on top of huge mushrooms possibly, i think notch wouldnt add a mob that intentionally griefs your wooden structures for the sake of it –Preceding unsigned comment was added by BlakusLockus (Talk|Contribs) 02:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Pure speculation. Too early to say anything. --TheKax 10:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
True, We certainly are getting a lot of speculation over a texture file. Mybabypetghast 00:23, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
a bit unfair because what if you dont have stone? and you build it out of wood, these come and eat it, then sssssssSSSSSSSS BOOM! –Preceding unsigned comment was added by WolfDog98 (Talk|Contribs) 12:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~
A) Most people who play Minecraft have more stone than they can even deal with. B) Life, generally, isn't fair. - DarkAuk 23:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Face Icon

I made a face icon for it, can anyone put it on the template and Mobs page? CCMM 05:38, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Can't you edit Template:Mobs? Or is it locked? --HexZyle 06:14, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Do we really even need it? (no offnse) TK.gif | TheKax | Talk 14:55, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Ever seen at PAX?

Have they been seen by at least one person at pax??? Tropius 01:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Tropius

No. They're very rare and everyone was busy checking out the new features and exploring rather than endlessly mining blocks for these little buggers --HexZyle 01:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Actual Silverfish screenshots

A Redditor posted three decent screenshots not great resolution though. Silverfish gallery But he did have useful information on how they are generated. Reddit post: Silverfish --Ecksearoh 01:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Spawn

Are silverfish the only mobs that can't respawn infinitely? --Trollrilla 21:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Nope, because they can spawn infinitely, if there are more than two of them, they can.. multiply. --{ Fishrock123 } (Talk) 21:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Except they don't multiply, they pop out of the blocks they are hiding in (destroying the block). You can prove this by /giving yourself block 97. --129.107.183.115 12:14, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Destruction

It is established that killing silverfish with direct methods will spawn more silverfish, and killing it with fire will not. Could someone please test the four other methods of death? They are: Falling, Lava, Drowning, and TNT. Eligitine 19:41, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

From what i've seen, they take cactus,fire,collision(falling),and creepers can blow them up.Tropius 00:25, 16 September 2011 (UTC)Tropius
What matters if it was hit by the player, just like neutral mobs becoming hostile. (The four Eligitine mentioned do not.) However, a skeleton killing a mob will make it drop experience orbs, so I don't know if a skeleton shot will spawn more. HotdogPi Come to my page! 01:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

...Am I the only one who thinks these guys are cute even though they anhilated my entire house and my forest?BlockBarracade 20:11, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Can they enter smooth stone?

As above. Xeoxer 11:49, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Does it actually spawn additional Silverifsh?

Have gone through a stronghold and not been swarmed while killing silverfish. Tried spawning block 97 and surrounding it with dozens of stone, stone brick, and cobblestone blocks and none of the surrounding blocks spawned silverfish while I punched the one that came out of block 97.

Same thing happens on the SMP server I play on. I'm doubtful that attacking a silverfish actually spawns extra silverfish. Seems like it only causes silverfish in the vicinity to pop out and attack you. That's it.

Anyone able to confirm this? Tari 05:18, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I cant find anything about spawn of additional silverfish in the code, only about summoning nearby Silverfishes and burrowing into stone/cobblestone/stone_bricks if player dies or runs away. — MiiNiPaaT|C 10:36, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
In that case, it might be wise to remove the lines that refer to silverfish spawning more silverfish and griefers using block 97 to summon swarms from the Trivia section. Tari 13:21, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
They do spawn, I've seen it in videos. They only spawn from a specific type of block made in Strongholds, I believe his block 97. Nothing else actually spawns them, then... In which case, griefers would have a hard time using it. MegaScience 13:29, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
"only about summoning Silverfishes from nearby silverfishBlock's". My bad. — MiiNiPaaT|C 13:37, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
I can confirm that Silverfish can spawn from cobblestone. However, it took about 64 silverfish for 6 cobblestone to break and spawn silverfish. It happens, just very rarely. Unless, of course, some of them burrowed while I was fighting. 70.246.60.105 16:09, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
"Unless, of course, some of them burrowed while I was fighting" That was most likely the case. I will wait till official 1.9 is out, then I'll look into source again. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by MiiNiPaa (Talk|Contribs) 13:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

huh?

on the yogscast i saw that a silverfish attacks, but i am just followed by that stupid creatures and i wont get hurt. i dont get it PMSF 11:29, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

In my SSP world, they simply push me, unless they are one block higher than me. On SMP, they are able to easy attack. --Trollrilla 02:02, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Add to trivia?

Is it just me, or do silverfish seem to have a hard hurting the play? I made a pen and stood around for the mob to attack me and it seemed to have a very difficult time with hurting me. If anyone else has noticed this, maybe it could be added to the trivia. MrLeonov 08:06, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

The seem to only hurt your face.Dctrjons 13:22, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Seems to me that they can't attack you if you are on level ground with them (something wrong with their collision box not meeting your feet collision box) They can attack you if they jump or if they are at a higher elevation than your feet. --HexZyle 13:30, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Crash on block rollover?

Hey all. I'm on 1.9pre3. I hacked the hidden silverfish block into my inventory. Now, whenever I rollover that block, the game goes to the saving chunks screen, then black screens. Anybody else have this? 124.168.66.89 01:36, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Umm, I'm pretty sure this is o the 1.9 pre 3 bugs page--BTH 01:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Mysterious block 97 on ground

I was making a monster farm and put down a spawner which I made have silverfish come out (with Spawner GUI). The lil buggers were basically chasing me around and annoying me while I spawned grass and water and glowstone to make the building. After a while of them chasing me around and me killing one about every 10-20 seconds, I noticed a block on the ground that looked like stone, so I plonked it down and punched it and it was indeed a silverfish block. I dont know whether this was a rare drop from a kill or if they bred or something but I havent seen anything about them being able to. I dont think I accidently spawned it because if that was the case, there'd be a whole stack not just the one block. Mods installed: SPC, TMI, spawner GUI. What do you guys think? 61.68.106.59 06:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Already known and mentioned in the article — MiiNiPaaT|C 12:40, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
I dont see it in the article? I dont mean that the silverfish turned another stone into a 97 block which I know can happen, I mean the dropped item was on the ground and came into my inventory when I walked near. If this is mentioned it does not show very well. 61.68.55.65 08:26, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Wait a minute, how did your IP address change slightly? HotdogPi Come to my page! 01:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

endermen and silverfish

ive found that endermen cannot pick up block 97. but they can pick up blocks that silverfish have entered. basically they cant pick up the blocks silverfish come from in the strong hold, and cant pick up edited in block 97. but they can pick up blocks that a silverfish was left near and reentered. i did a little test and got a bunch of silverfish to hide in cobble, if i broke the cobble they were in they came out like it was block 97, but endermen could pick it up unlike block 97.--Higbey 01:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Hostile?

Can you really say that silverfish are hostile? Let's say that Block 97 IS the silverfish in it's "block form", and that it is neutral. That way, destroying Block 97 is like attacking it, causing it to become hostile. So what if the silverfish is actually neutral, and block 97 is just it's non-agressive form, "camouflaged" like stone? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Krijac98 (Talk|Contribs) 19:37, 31 December 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Silverfish spawned from spawners are always hostile. 84.156.28.81 20:52, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Potions

The silverfish appears to be affected by splash potions, but I don't know if the potion of weakness make it inoffensive. Could anyone confirm this ? Pyshkopath 11:09, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Usage of silverfish

i experimented with silverfish and realized that they can't enter ores, now i think we might have a usage for them (except for destroying cubble structures with swarms of them) Silverfish mining! get a lot of them in a cave, let them hide in stones attack, and anger them, run away and do it all again.all cobble stone should get destoyed and the ores would stay there... awesome! –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.176.170.201 (Talk) 00:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

And dirt and gravel (beware of suffocating). HotdogPi Come to my page! 01:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Round Stone Brick Entering

As we all should know, round brick blocks have been added to 1.2.

Well, after experimenting with silverfish spawners, i noticed that the new blocks can be entered by silverfish. Also, when they do enter, the round brick turns into the regular brick version that they normally spawn/enter from.

Since i dont have any proof, i didnt want to post this on the page. However, i would want someone to prove it for me since i cant. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.119.183.239 (Talk) 22:15, 12 March 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

This is true with mossy and cracked stone bricks too. HotdogPi 01:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Block 97 and Silk Touch

If you mine a silverfish block with a tool with the Silk Touch enchantment, what happens? Does it spawn a silverfish, or do you collect block 97? HotdogPi 01:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

It spawns the silverfish but instead of destroying the drop like normal you get the block in its form before it was infested. --Moxxy 01:38, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Silverfish spawners and stone blocks

According to the article:

Silverfish spawn only from silverfish blocks and monster spawners. In the latter case, they can only spawn in light level 11 or lower, except on top of stone blocks, where they can spawn at any light level.

Checking the code, this is entirely incorrect (unless it was this way in a previous version, and they changed it).

See "EntitySilverfish.java". The "isValidLightLevel" function has been overridden to ALWAYS return true. Traditionally, this function checks if the light level is above a certain amount, but has been overridden so silverfish will always be able to spawn in spawners, regardless of light level.

   protected boolean isValidLightLevel()
   {
       return true;
   }

There is no mention of any "stone block" requirement. I have updated the article to remove this incorrect assumption, but if anyone can find somewhere in the code that validates the previous statement, feel free to change it back.

--IQAndreas 14:26, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

They also override the getBlockPathWeight method:
   public float getBlockPathWeight(int par1, int par2, int par3)
   {
       if (worldObj.getBlockId(par1, par2 - 1, par3) == Block.stone.blockID)
       {
           return 10F;
       }
       else
       {
           return super.getBlockPathWeight(par1, par2, par3);
       }
   }
The chain of events: EntitySilverfish.getCanSpawnHere() calls super.getCanSpawnHere() and checks for a player within 5 blocks.
EntityMob.getCanSpawnHere() calls EntitySilverfish.isValidLightLevel() (always true, as you mention above) and super.getCanSpawnHere().
EntityCreature.getCanSpawnHere() calls super.getCanSpawnHere() and EntitySilverfish.getBlockPathWeight().
EntityLiving.getCanSpawnHere() just checks if the area is unobstructed.
EntitySilverfish.getBlockPathWeight() always allows spawning on top of stone; on anything else, it calls EntityMob.getBlockPathWeight():
   public float getBlockPathWeight(int par1, int par2, int par3)
   {
       return 0.5F - worldObj.getLightBrightness(par1, par2, par3);
   }
Due to the non-linearity of light levels, this returns a negative value (prevents spawning) when the light level is 12 or greater. This is the same mechanism that lets Blazes spawn in light levels up to 11. Not particularly obvious, and I don't know why they didn't just check for that in isValidLightLevel instead. -- Orthotope 04:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Silverfish coming to a biome near you.

By some reports, only to extreme hills -- I would actually be OK with more. Consider: They occupy and break stone... but not ores. If you just let one wander around, it will clear out rock and expose ores for you... --Mental Mouse 00:27, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Not just extreme hills. I'm currently about 20 blocks under a forest biome according to F3, and I just had the crap startled out of me... first time I've seen one. No stronghold around, solid stone and dirt in all other directions.--StarChaser Tyger 12:31, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
And five blocks further along and it makes me look stupid. :P Extreme hills, so I was under the edge. --StarChaser Tyger 12:34, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

if they add a new mob. it should be a silverfish

but can hide in ores and drop the ore that they spawn from (not nether quartz) they would have a tint for the ore ex: light blue=diamond,blood red=redstone,etc.redstone silverfish should have slightly better health and damage.lapis silverfish would spawn in groups, emerald silverfish should be passive and tamable through emeralds, might be a occasional house pet for villagers, they would follow their villager owners as if they were walking them.--Herotime 19:02, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

I lost my silverfish!

You won't believe this: I was about to name the silverfish I spawned in Creative Mode when suddenly, it vanished. I spawned another silverfish, but the same thing happened. What's worse, I can't get them back. Do you think those silverfishes are hiding in the stone floor I built? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by PrinceGhast (talkcontribs) at 13:35, 16 April 2014 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

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