Talk:Java Edition 1.13-pre5

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Page creation[edit]

Please do not create a page simply because it's listed on the bug tracker. There's no point having an empty page with 0 information, it serves no purpose. --Pepijn (talk) 14:28, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

What I'm more concerned about is creating a page that has no content at all and is not useful to readers at all, such as how this page was when it was created initially. As you can see, I tried to turn it around to make it a somewhat useful article - but I do agree that there's really not much point of having a page simply because it's listed on the bug tracker.-- Madminecrafter12Orange Glazed Terracotta.pngTalk to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 14:31, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
You could also prepare the page in your userspace and then either move it over or copy its contents when the version actually is released. But when you created the page, it was actually already known that a 1.13-pre5 will come today (see this tweet), so creating / preparing a page beforehand is justified then in my opinion. At least it's better than just creating a blank page just to be the one who created the page. | violine1101(Talk) 17:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
I have noticed that a lot of people seem to create snapshot pages "just to be the one who created the page." Personally, when I create snapshot pages, I like to put at least an infobox (version nav), a sentence summarizing the additions/changes, and a ref to the article. I don't usually like to create snapshot pages before they're released, but if other people prefer to, that's not too much of a problem - I just really think it would be better if they still add useful content right away - such as a version nav, a brief description of the snapshot, and a link to the tweet, rather than just one short sentence.-- Madminecrafter12Orange Glazed Terracotta.pngTalk to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 18:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Also note this admin request and the further discussion here: Minecraft Wiki talk:Community portal#Creating empty/contentless pages. Although the discussion did not come to concensus yet about how to phrase it for the style guide, it's not allowed anymore to create empty, contentless pages, it could even be a bannable offence. – Jack McKalling [ Talk Contrib ] 10:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Also, I just found that the style guide disallows development versions from being created if they haven't been released yet. See rule 5.1 on MCW:NOTABILITY: "Unreleased development version articles may not be created."-- Madminecrafter12Orange Glazed Terracotta.pngTalk to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 15:57, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Sounds like a very outdated rule. Should probably be updated to exclude development versions which have sourced information but have not yet been released. --Pepijn (talk) 16:18, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

DROP TABLE id_changes;[edit]

Maybe we should do something with the table. It's too wide on small screens, and this gets even worse with the siderail.

One proposal was to remove minecraft: namespace prefixes. It reduces the extent of the issue substantially.

My proposal is to use a list formatted like this:

Any comments? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 18:10, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

 Oppose - I think it is fine like that. If the problem is that it's to wide on small screens, pick up the desktop versions and zoom out. Also there are a lot of table like this around the wiki. - Hugman_76 [ User page Talk page Contributions ] 19:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)