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- 1 Damage Values Error
- 2 Green
- 3 Brown?
- 4 Colour Dyes
- 5 Brown
- 6 A Giant picture of Dye
- 7 Notes
- 8 In game pictures
- 9 Quick problem with the Dye Crafting guide
- 10 Palette file
- 11 Damage Values
- 12 1.0 Dyed Sheep Breeding
- 13 Other uses for dyes
- 14 Name
- 15 Infobox title
- 16 Green and Lime
- 17 Color Codes for leather armor are wrong
- 18 Wool Coloring
- 19 Redefinition of Primary Color dyes
Damage Values Error
The numbers for the damage values are backwards for as far as i know. I changed them.
I believe you are mistake, now the colors are in the wrong order. Ink Sac is damage 121:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)!
The damage values are listed as bone meal being 0 while the trivia says bone meal is 15. Someone who knows for sure which one is right please change whichever is wrong.17:31, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
Green could be crafted with slime. Eventually. Just a tought. Or leaves. Or diamonds. LOL -- –The preceding unsigned comment was added by( | ) 18:18, 13 January 2011. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
It's crafted with Cacti.18:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I would dare say it involves the blue ore.18:33, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
There are 5 "primary colors", red, yellow, blue, black, white. And since red+yellow=orange, I'd dare to say that yellow+blue=green :P18:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
green dye is made by burning cactus in furnace
Someone should add pictures of the dyes! :D
There are some images of a brown dye up on the forums - can it be confirmed, and if it can, can somebody find the recipe?
I have seen brown dye aswell, perhaps the 15 colors added did not include the original color white ;) --22:04, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Brown dye exist, is coco beans, but there isn't any way to get them except hacking damage into the any dye and setting it to 3. --22:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I believe that white makes up 15 dyes because bones make white.
Maybe it is a very secret dye? =D22:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Brown dye is cocoa beans. You can only get them from dungeons or through hacks.07:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
I took what I think are the colour dyes and put them here. If someone could organise them into separate images for the articles that would be great.
Some evidence of the existance of brown would be nice since 15 dyes WERE ADDED.
1. Rose Red- Red
2. Dandelion Yellow- Yellow
3. Lapis Lazuli- Blue
4. Cactus Green- Green
5. Ink Sack- Black
6. Bone Meal- White
8. Light Grey
9. Light Blue
16. Cocoa Beans- Brown
A Giant picture of Dye
If anyone here would be willing, getting a large picture of one of the dyes to have as a title picture in the style of the other item pages would be appreciated. It only has to be one, fairly large, and a sample. I.E.-St. Fenix ( • ) 16:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
I have added a giant picture and posted it on the Wool Dyes page. I hope the guide has all the information you need. If anyone needs to edit this image in the future (in case of changes or additions to the dye system), an editable file can be found here: -- 03:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Added one, It's even animated. --17:43, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
The note "Mixing one Ink Sack with two Bone Meal will give you three Light Gray Dye. If you need Light Gray Dye, this method is economical for Ink Sacks." is wrong. This method generates 3 Light Gray per 1 Ink Sack (+ 2 Bone Meal). By making Gray Dye first you can get 4 Light Gray per 1 Ink Sack (+ 3 Bone Meal). This is the more economical method.
In game pictures
I have some in game pictures of the wools in a row.
Should I add it? --16:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Nae, pretty redundant as we already have which is already in (but could do with getting put in too..) -- 17:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Quick problem with the Dye Crafting guide
It says Lapis yields only 1 blue dye, when it (in SSP) really gives 4-8. –The preceding unsigned comment was added by( | ) 02:02, 27 January 2011. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
- This appears to have been fixed, unless I'm missing something :s -- 06:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
I grabbed the 16 wool textures from terrain.png, averaged the colour of each 16x16 square, and exported it as a GIMP palette file. This could be useful for people wishing to do pixel art, but I don't know where to put it. (for the GIMP, save the following text as 'Minecraft_Wools.gpl' in your ~/.gimp/palettes/ directory, or ~/.gimp-2.6/palettes/, or I have no idea where this would go in a windows machine. Still, the RGB values are there. Should probably rearrange the order to match the damage-values for the dyed wool.
GIMP Palette Name: Minecraft_Wools Columns: 8 # 0 0 0 Index 0 Ink Sac 39 51 154 Index 1 Lapiz Lazuli 86 51 28 Index 2 Brown Dye 67 67 67 Index 3 Gray Dye 56 77 24 Index 4 Cactus Green 164 45 41 Index 5 Rose Red 129 54 196 Index 6 Purple Dye 39 117 149 Index 7 Cyan Dye 191 76 201 Index 8 Magenta Dye 104 139 212 Index 9 Light Blue Dye 234 128 55 Index 10 Orange Dye 217 131 155 Index 11 Pink Dye 59 189 48 Index 12 Lime Dye 158 166 166 Index 13 Light Gray Dye 194 181 28 Index 14 Dandelion Yellow 222 222 222 Index 15 Bone Meal
The damage values for the dyes start at 0 and go to 15 in this order:
"black", "red", "green", "brown", "blue", "purple", "cyan", "silver", "gray", "pink", "lime", "yellow", "lightBlue", "magenta", "orange", "white"
This has been copied directly from the decompiled ItemDye java file and has been tested with new crafting formulas.17:41, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
1.0 Dyed Sheep Breeding
Confirmed that dyed sheep when bred will produce dyed offspring. This means that you can get theoretically unlimited coloured wool from 2 units of dye.16:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
I have experienced this is ~usually~ the case, but sometimes I get a child sheep of a different color, not always a naturally occurring one. I think that after sheep are dyed they still have a chance to produce a child of their original color. Of course I may be crazy.09:55, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
I've produced 1000+ units of wool, changing colors of my flock several times, and never got a child with a different color than parents. Maybe you could recheck that? --10:43, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- The previous statement above doesn't make much sense. If one parent is a Yellow sheep and the other is Red, how can the color of the offspring be the same as both parents. 12:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- I just (1.4.5) experienced breeding a black and a white sheep gives a dark grey one, breeding this with a white sheep again results in a light grey lamb. I will test if this works with the other secondary/tertiary colours as well. 12:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- This is a new mechanic in 1.4; if the corresponding dyes can be combined (e.g., black and white, or red and yellow), the offspring will have a mixed color (e.g., grey or orange). If the parents are not compatible (such as orange and green), the offspring will be the same color as one of them, chosen at random. -- 21:36, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Other uses for dyes
What if we could dye glass and wood planks? It would vastly increase the uses for dyes and open up a whole new world of creativity in building design. ~~Harticus78~~
Now that you can dye leather armor, should the name remain "wool dyes?" In the game, it is simply referred to as "dye."04:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, now you can use these for dye armor and wolves' collars, so i think that this page should be renamed as "Dyes"-- 07:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
The page has been moved to dyeing20:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
The infobox title should read "dye" instead of "dyeing" as it describes dyes, not the actual act of dyeing itself. --10:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Green and Lime
Maybe we should swap the lines of Green and Lime in dye crafting guide? I've found out that Green(#667F33) in Minecraft is actually yellower than Lime(#7FCC19). The hue value of #667F33 is 53 of 240(80 of 360), while #7FCC19 is 57 of 240(86 of 360). Even I pick colors from their textures, I'll get yellower color from Green Wool than from Lime Wool. I think the order of colors in the chart should base on their actual color(hue) values, not just their names.06:18, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- Here is the sequence of color blocks, including non-dyeable ones. You can see green wool is 85 and lime wool is 115. Exactly, green wool is yellower.
( ) 15:10, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Color Codes for leather armor are wrong
Color Codes are wrong. Not the 0-15 ones of course, the 6 digit ones for leather armor. Also that section says those are used for sheep but sheep use 0-15 (just "color" tag instead of "damage"). After spending 2 hours trial and erroring I'm still no closer to figuring out true values for leather armor (but I can tell you the lowest numbers are black, with blue apparently above it aways). Also they don't seem to use A-F at all anymore (if you use letters the armor won't be dyed at all).
Ok I eventually found the codes (thank you YouTubers). I didn't just trust the info of course I playtested all 16 colors. Corrected info near the bottom, although I don't know for sure the old data was wrong from a game-code point of view (just a NBZ tag point of view) so I left the old info up and specified "cheat codes and command blocks" with the new info. Alternately this could be a "new as of 1.7" thing... 14:22, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- The color codes on the page are correct; they can be seen in-game using the F3+H option to show detailed item information. They're displayed as hexadecimal RGB triplets, but in commands you have to use the decimal equivalent; I haven't been able to make it parse hexadecimal in any of the common forms (#667F33, 0x667F33, and 667F33h all fail). I'm not sure where your numbers come from, but they're actually a bit darker than they should be; I'll update the article later today. -- 19:28, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. By all means if the shades are slightly off correct them. I got those numbers off a google search which turned up a youtube video on how to get command blocks to give you colored armor. They might just be trial and error. I'm just glad to get my ninja zombies into actual black leather armor and my sheep imitator zombie into white leather armor (see it's a sheep spawner with 3 surprises...a Grumm sheep and a sheep on fire were the other 2). 11:57, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Should all the wool be combined into one "Wool Dyeing" alternating crafting table, since stained glass and stain clay have the same?( ) 01:32, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- Changed. ( ) 20:30, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Redefinition of Primary Color dyes
Primary colors are currently defined as those that can be crafted from ingredients found from the world. This is a proposal to redefine primary color as a dye that cannot be obtained by crafting other dyes, closer to the real life definition of primary colors. The 1.7 update allowed non-primary dyes to be crafted from the new flowers. So it's basically what the pre 1.7 definition was.
Colors based on new definitions:
Primary (may not be crafted from other dyes, must be crafted from ingredients from the world)
Secondary (can be crafted with two primary dyes)
Orange Dye (Rose Red + Dandelion Yellow, or by crafting an orange tulip)
Light Blue Dye (Lapis Lazuli + Bone Meal [this is wasteful if you can find a swamp], or by crafting a blue orchid)
Pink Dye (Rose Red + Bone Meal, or by crafting a peony or pink tulip)
Cyan Dye (Cactus Green + Lapis Lazuli)
Purple Dye (Rose Red + Lapis Lazuli)
Gray Dye (Bone Meal + Ink Sac)
Lime Dye (Cactus Green + Bone Meal)
Tertiary (can be crafted with secondary dyes, or more than two primary dyes)
Magenta Dye (Rose Red + Rose Red + Lapis Lazuli + Bone Meal, or Purple Dye + Pink Dye, or by crafting a lilac or allium)
Light Gray Dye (Bone Meal + Bone Meal + Ink Sac, or Bone Meal + Gray Dye, or by crafting a white plant)
( ) 04:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC)