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Style[edit]

Ultradude25 made a pretty cool skin for the wiki, please try it out and give your opinion about it.

To try out on EN:

  @import "/index.php?title=User:Ultradude25/minecraft.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css";

To try out on other languages:

  @import "http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=User:Ultradude25/minecraft.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css";

Put one of these on top of your userstyle and refresh your cache if needed.--Quatroking - MCWiki Administrator 14:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Nice, Minecraftstyle. Looks a lot like the forums now. I like that.
Unbelievable that nobody thought of it sooner.
The only problem now is the grey text beneath minecraftwiki logo is hard to read now. A solution is to put that text above the cube.
It has a few problems more on the dutch wiki, like the horizontal menu that slide behind each other when the screen gets to small.CrazyBliep - NL Admin 15:59, 27 Januari 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I updated the logo with brighter white lettering, I think it is better now, it doesn't get lost in the brown background. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 15:46, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh wow, pretty good! It's just an error at the "watchlist" button at german. picture -- Oliver Scholz de.Wiki Admin 16:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Ah. It's not the german wiki, it's the german language pack -- Oliver Scholz de.Wiki Admin 16:27, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
The reason for that is the text is pushed out to the side so it can't be seen (for screen readers, I guess), but obviously the text for your watchlist button is much longer than the English version. I'll just push it out further. (also, what is happening with the view history tab? Could that be a problem with length again?)
I think I need some help with colours in the content area (things like tables/diffs/etc. Styling of templates like infobox can come after the skin is applied globally). Right now, I just grabbed colours for various parts of the forums, and while mostly I think it looks alright, Wyn pointed out that the colour doesn't go with the mcwiki-header/logo colour.
I'm not really sure what to change, but I really do think they do need to be coloured, or at least made darker. The default vector colours look too light against the darker background, and the things with white backgrounds I find too bright. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 00:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't think it needs to be changed at all. I think the white background for tables and infoboxes works just fine. Oh... that's right.. they are using yours not mine, so if you still have all the funky colors then what they are seeing is different than what I am seeing.... -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 00:59, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
I just found a little problem with this new style. I made a screenshot of it. Text and background have the samen color here, so you cant read the text anymore. --STS(t|c) 09:55, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
That's not modified by the style. What OS are you on? It looks like this to me. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 10:13, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
@Wyn: I've commented out the colour changes until we've found something agreeable. You might want to update your copy of the style, since I've made some other colour un-related changes.
Perfectly, my problem is solved. -- Oliver Scholz de.Wiki Admin 11:34, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Screenshot was taken using Google Chrome on win7. I tested it with default style and it has the same problem there, so not your fault. --STS(t|c) 13:40, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Today I worked at the class "mcwiki-header". Here's my result: picture
Infobox_common & common.css -- Oliver Scholz de.Wiki Admin 11:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm not really a big fan of the forum's header. Although the current header colour does seem slightly too blue against the background.
In other news, I'm still having problems with the tab collapsing. The javascript seems at fault, it can't handle the tabs having padding or margins. I would attempt to fix it, but I have no idea where to find the script responsible... It's strange because even if you move any padding/margins to the span and a, so the li is left with no margin or padding, it still gets itself stuck in a loop. I would think the script would only need to look at the li to find the tab size, and if it did, moving the margin/padding to elements within the li, instead of the li itself, should fix this bug. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 12:01, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

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Keep in mind that it is known that there are some css anomalies in 1.17. I believe most of these have been addressed and corrected in 1.18, so hopefully, we might see these issues go away once the wikis get upgraded. Oliver, I can't see any of the screenshots you are posting, I get a 403 Forbidden error. you might want to try a different image host. Also, there is no plan to change the blue header to match the brown headers on the forum, I hate them, and the blue header is the tie in for our logo. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 23:49, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

The 403 Forbidden error is a problem with Imgur; I suspect it happens due to incorrectly configured hotlink disabling (and at any rate, it can be fixed by just clicking in the address bar and hitting ↵ Enter). I'd agree, though, until Imgur fixes this problem, another image host would be preferable. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
I've already tested this skin on 1.18, and it still has the tab bug. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 02:35, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

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Ah sorry Wyn, I see. New picture at the right side. (yes, it's an imgur problem) -- Oliver Scholz de.Wiki Admin 16:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


I've test the theme on english and french wiki. It's really nice. But there is one problem: the drop-down list for the search bar is not showing… – Scaler (t) 10:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Drop down for the search bar? Am I missing something? -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 10:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, it is showing but far on the right outside of the screen, so I didn't saw it ^^" (see capture: [1]). Maybe it's due to my low screen resolution on my laptop (1280×800px).
By the way, the top and bottom banners (.atflb and .btflb css classes) with a 1200px width are overflowing outside of the screen (1200 + ~170 of the left side bar > 1280). – Scaler (t) 12:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
The search box placement is decided on page load, but I needed to move the search box, so I guess it broke that (this happens on default vector too, if you resize the window without re-loading the page). I'll see if I can fix it, but this doesn't happen on 1.18. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 13:01, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
This should be fixed now. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 01:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Is it bug free and we can add it? -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 15:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
There is some areas I'm not 100% happy with, but for the most part it is ready. However, it can not be added until all the languages agree to it. I was going to post on each wiki, but I was unable to log into some of them, and I haven't had a chance it try again. You can try if you want, I would recommend including the top part of this topic with the gallery and how to test the skin (obviously don't need to include the en version :P).
I'll quickly update the gallery with the skin on 1.18, since there are some minor changes to the search area. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 15:31, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Bad idea, I have to upload the three pictures. I will test itself. -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 15:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 Zh -  Ru -  Br -  Pl -  Ko -  Hu -  Fr -  Zh -  Es
result: here -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 16:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I didn't mean the skin needed testing on the other languages, I know it works on all of them as long as they use compact search (and for those ones that don't, that's for Wyn to sort out).
The admins/community of the languages have to agree to switch to the skin, since Curse wants all the languages using the same theme. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 16:06, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh, now I got it. -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 16:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Actually, I just thought of a way to support the default search. I'm going to do some tests now. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 16:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Pretty Cool. Now it's a really MINECRAFT Wiki [= (but of course we can use our logo (MCWikiPL Logo)?) Lewandowskipl.Wiki Admin talk 16:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Your logo is minecrafty, so it should still fit.
I have restricted the styling to the simple search, so now the basic search is usable, but uses the default styling. I'll see if I can give it similar styling to the simple search now. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 17:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

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Tried it on Chinese Wiki, looks pretty nice, although the "Minecraft Wiki" text under the logo seems to be not visible.---Powup333 ZH Admin 17:13, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

If you tried it using show preview, that will happen. Show preview seems to order the style under the wiki's vector.css, instead of over it, so the wiki's logo overwrites the skin's logo. Everything should work when you view it normally though. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 17:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
At the request of the administrator of the de.Wiki Oliver Scholz I and other administrators of the ru.Wiki have tested the current version of the proposed design. Overall we liked it, but the current version has bugs that need to be fixed before the possible adoption.
Two serious errors are illustrated by screenshots. It is necessary to solve the problem of the search bar and the problem with the top navigation menu. Also there is an opinion that the inscription “Minecraft Wiki” is difficult to read at the current background.
Therefore, while this design has these problems we are voting against it. HEKP0H - ru.Wiki Admin 18:03, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
What browser are you using? That doesn't happen on Firefox, Chrome or IE9 (look at the gallery at the top to see how the skin should be). The logo is probably just the normal logo overwriting the skin's one. I can't do anything about that until we can overwrite the original logo (or $wgLogo is fixed), which will happen when the skin is officially applied. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 18:08, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Firefox 11.0 HEKP0H - ru.Wiki Admin 18:12, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Firefox 11.0 picture -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 18:31, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I've tested on Firefox 11, Chrome 14, IE 9-5.5 and just now, Opera 11.6 and they don't have those problems (although IE 6 and 5.5 have some minor rendering issues, but that would be impossible to fix). Therefor this appears to be a problem on your end; your font looks bigger so maybe you're overwriting the wiki's font/font-size? I've tested zooming in Firefox as well, and it works fine. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 18:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
We are still waiting for approvals? -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 12:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Looking back through the page, these are the current results:
 Br -  De -  Es -  Fr -  Hu -  Ja -  Ko -  Nl -  Pl -  Ru (assuming HEKP0H fixed his issue) -  Zhultradude25 (T|C) at 02:17, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
br, es & ja work without administrators. hu, ko doesn't respond. -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 18:30, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, guys, am I the only one who doesnt know how to implement this skin? :D Icguy 06:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Copy the text at the top of this section into your usercss, e.g. User:Icguy/vector.css. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 06:53, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Yay, thanks! It looks cool, however i need to get used to it. I'd love to see it on the Hungarian wiki too. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Icguy (Talk|Contribs) 07:25, 18 April 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

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I can't edit English director's page, but the skin looks great, works fine. --Alswo9628 the admin (Talk) 2012년 4월 18일 (수) 00:00 (UTC)

Copied Alswo's text.
 Br (no admin) -  De -  Es (no admin) -  Fr -  Hu -  Ja (no admin) -  Ko -  Nl -  Pl -  Ru -  Zh -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 14:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
EDIT: Search bar doesn't change. --Alswo9628 KOR Admin 03:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
The normal search bar is unstylable. You have to use the compact search bar. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 06:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! Now it looks much better :D --Alswo9628 KOR Admin 07:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I've got one tiny problem with the new skin. Normally, I could see when I was logged in when I had the new skin. Now I can't anymore. :). It will always look the same. Ow well, things we do for the visitors ;). Good job. - CrazyBliep NL Admin 08:07, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I have requested a change for those wikis currently not using the compact search bar. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 03:43, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Language wikis down[edit]

Several of the language wikis are currently down. This is being addressed by our tech team and we expect everything to be back up very soon. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 03:45, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

This should be resolved now. Please let me know if there are still problems. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 04:36, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

MC logo at our mainpage[edit]

At the German "editcopy" page someone has inserted the Minecraft logo into the text. What do you think? A good idea? -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 21:12, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

It needs alt text for readers who view the wiki with images disabled (whether by choice, or because they are unable to view images - for instance, readers using a screen reader). Other than that, it's an interesting idea. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Maybe a caption is the solution?: {{escaped link|File:Mclogo.png|90px|Minecraft}} -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 19:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. =) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I post the same question at our Community portal, maybe some users also write opinions. -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 16:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Update[edit]

Greetings! I'm please to tell you all that the much awaited upgrade to 1.18.1 is happening tomorrow. There should be no downtime, just a short period where the wikis will be read-only. We will start with the English one and move through all of the language wikis until we are done. Please place an appropriate site notice for your communities. Thanks! -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 02:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Tomorrow or today? Because the site notice you placed says 8 march (that means today), but your are talking about tomorrow here... --STS(t|c) 15:30, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, any date/time would be in US CST. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 18:31, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Bugs with MediaWiki 1.18.1[edit]

On french wiki there is those "bugs":

  • search bar with the default vector "go/search" button.
  • the curse icon next to the username doesn't load ("GET http://fr.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/W/extensions/Curse/Icons/Flame.png [HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found 407ms]"). css problem fixed front end.-- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 14:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
  • left menu sections are not collapsible.
  • when blocking an IP the last option is "<ipb-hardblock>".
  • on french and english wiki: html code in the recent changes page options when starting from a date ([2]): "&lt;namespace_association&gt;" it should be "Associated namespace". Same for the tooltips: "&lt;tooltip-namespace_association&gt;" instead of "Check this box to also include the talk or subject namespace associated with the selected namespace".

Scaler (t) 20:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

- CrazyBliep (NL Admin) 00:17, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Confirmed on the English wiki, changes won't fold.--Quatroking - MCWiki Administrator 17:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
  • On the page Special:SpecialPages under the topic Users and rights have the words, <blocklist> and <passwordreset>. - CrazyBliep (NL Admin) 16:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
mw-collapsible won't collapse.
I don't think this is a conflict with the external collapsible script, that still works fine. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 10:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I am working on a list of "fixes" post upgrade. I have asked for the svg issue to be looked into, and I need a specific list of the wikis this is not working on. I hope to have all of the bugs worked out by the end of the week, but remember we are doing this on every wiki on the network. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 06:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

svg and ogg files should now be available on all wikis, account creation on Korean wiki is fixed, uploading images on Dutch wiki should be fine (I had no problems with it). Ultra, I need examples of where mw-collapse doesn't work to show Tim. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 14:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

the mw-collapse issue has to be investigated further, it might be tied to the enhanced recent changes problem, so expect neither to be fixed immediately. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 14:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

mw-collapse doesn't work anywhere. Try any of the examples in mediawiki's manual. It does everything, but add the style to the text that needs collapsing, which means nothing actually happens.
Here's mediawiki's example, expanded and collapsed. And here's the same example here, expanded and collapsed.
Also, that thing with the text being undefined seems to happen in other places too, but only sometimes. If I keep reloading a page, it'll keep toggling between the text being correct and the text being undefined.
Some examples: Correct protect button text, wrong protect button text. Correct block page text, wrong block page text. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 15:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The last examples of your top tabs is something that is due to your own personal changes (I use the drop down menu that is standard in vector) so I'm assuming that's got to do with the css stuff. Also, when I ask for examples of how it's not working, I don't mean links to external wikis, I mean places (even your sandbox) where you can demonstrate that it's not working HERE. (sometimes you make me just want to bang my head on my desk....) -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 15:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The tabs are unrelated, all they do is move the menu into tabs, the same undefined text happens with the menu.([3][4]) And I don't know what you're talking about, there's no external wiki involved? –ultradude25 (T|C) at 15:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
This is what Wyn wants: a case in point of mw-collapsible not working on minecraftwiki ^^ – Scaler (t) 16:51, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Progress! mw-collapsible is almost working, however the collapse button throws an error and won't collapse. However expanding data that is collapsed on page load works correctly, it's just the collapse button that won't work. Interestingly though, everything works fine in the watchlist, which seems to use mw-collapsible too.

The error whenever you click the collapse button is: data.change is undefined on line 16ultradude25 (T|C) at 05:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Fix for sortable tables[edit]

I have found how why sortable tables isn't working. It seems Curse is manually including jquery.min.css (it looks like it is being used for the twitter and forum feeds in the sidebar), which as far as I'm aware is already included with mediawiki. By removing this, sortable tables load again.

If you want to fix it right now on the client side, and you have adblock, you can add this as a blocking rule: |http://www.minecraftwiki.net/skins/common/jquery.min.js?*
You can probably do this from Window's HOSTS file too, if you don't have adblock. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 18:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Fix for collapsible tables[edit]

data.change[data.change.length] = { $item: $that, text: "" + expandtext };

By removing this line, which is producing an 'undefined' error (thus causing the whole script to stop), it will collapse, but won't expand again (as this line was used to set the expand button).

if ( data.toggles ) {
    data.toggles = data.toggles.concat (jQuery.makeArray( $that ) );
    [data.change etc..]
} else {

However, by also getting rid of the rest of that if statement (and leaving what it would do otherwise) it seems to then allow it to function normally (including all the fancy fading and sliding animations). I did only do some basic tests though (on Firefox), but it's better than it not working at all, right?


If you want to fix it client side, you can add this to your vector.js:

// {{escaped link|User:Ultradude25/jQuery.makeCollapsibleHotfix.js}}
mw.loader.load('http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title{{=}}User:Ultradude25/jQuery.makeCollapsibleHotfix.js&action=raw&ctype=text/css');

Note that you can't use importScript for this, as they are loaded at the bottom of the page, which isn't soon enough, and mw.loader.load only supports external links. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 18:16, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Grid templates[edit]

I made a new javascript for the Grid/... templates. You can see the result on on the Dutch crafting page. Maybe other wikis want to update there templates to this version? The new JavaScript and css can be found on the Dutch MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css. Please let me know what you like/dislike about it. --STS(t|c) 13:50, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I like the idea of pausing, although I don't think you actually need to say pause on it, that should be obvious. One problem is it un-pauses again when you right-click on it and hover over the context menu. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 19:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
What browser are you using? I used google chrome and I don't seem to have that problem. --STS(t|c) 22:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems to be a bug specific to Firefox, as it doesn't happen in IE too. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 01:41, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I could not find a good solution for this. The only thing I can do is turning off the context menu for the crafting table, but I don't know if that is what you want.--STS(t|c) 20:37, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Nah that would be bad. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 04:53, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Article count[edit]

How does the "Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}" works? Because on the Chinese Wiki, it says we only have 114 pages, but clearly we have more than that, so I want to know how does it count the pages?---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 20:22, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Manual:Article count -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 20:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 20:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

OggHandler[edit]

The Chinese Wiki doesn't have the extension "OggHandler", so on the Music discs (Chinese) page the music cannot be played right on the browser.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 23:06, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I will request it. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 20:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

BlockCSS[edit]

In future I think we get some problems with the Block CSS. New blocks in Minecraft will occupy our used space. Do we want to split the file? right -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 20:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not a professional in this, but can't we just make the BlockCSS.png bigger? Because I think spliting it will create many more probems.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 23:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Yeah that would work, but it'll require all the positions to be changed. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 01:21, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
You could just create new rows and keep the old ones? That way no positions needs to be changed, I think. - CrazyBliep NL Admin 08:16, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
The idea is to move all modified images outside of the area the minecraft image takes up, so that none of Mojang's, or our textures have to be moved when those slots are used up. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 08:44, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Something like this? -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 10:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
No they should be the same file, something like this: [5]ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:19, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Ah agree, much better. But the name is... well :) -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 11:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Only if you have a dirty mind. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:27, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
So, do we want to implement this? (en, de and nl at the same time) -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 19:56, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

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Yeah, this will solve all the problems, right? But maybe we can update it with the new image in the new snapshot all the same time? P.S. you missed zh, we will update it too.---Powup333 ZH Admin 22:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

But zh doesn't use en's image database so you're updated separately. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 01:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 Done :) -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 19:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sitenotice[edit]

The MediaWiki:Sitenotice doesn't seems to work properly on Chinese Wiki, the message itself is not centered on the page and the "dismiss" button is garbled.---Powup333 ZH Admin 15:38, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Help![edit]

The Chinese Wiki is now having a BIG problem! All the templates doesn't seems to be working! Please help us!---Powup333 ZH Admin 00:08, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

This is a very interesting error you're having. Even magic words aren't working correctly, and are trying to be parsed as templates.
The only thing I can think that could be the cause is the Asirra extension. From what I've been told, it doesn't work on non-English wikis. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 01:38, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Actually it seems Asirra has been installed on all the wikis and is working correctly, so something else is causing this. –ultradude25 (T|C) at 02:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I have post a message on the Sitenotice and Anonnotice to told people to temporarily stop editing the wiki. From the recent changes page, I don't see any edit that will cause this problem, although there are some wiki attacks yesterday, but they should all be undone already...—Powup333 ZH Admin 13:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
It has been fixed! —Powup333 ZH Admin 19:15, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
This was an internal server problem. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 03:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Sidebar additions[edit]

I've added a useful pages section to our sidebar (as well as a few other minor changes to links/names), other languages might want to translate and add that too, it really helps navigation.

Additionally, I stumbled upon how to add tooltips to custom items on the sidebar, you just use the name of the item on the sidebar (for example "Redstone circuits"), then you add the name (replacing spaces with -) to the end of this page name: "MediaWiki:Tooltip-n-" (for our example: "MediaWiki:Tooltip-n-Redstone-circuits")
Whatever you add to that page will be the tooltip when you hover over the sidebar item.
Note that the names are case sensitive, and also if you change the name of something on the sidebar, you'll have to move the tooltip page associated with it to the new name.

I've added some tooltips to most of the items on there, other languages might want to translate and add these too. ultradude25 (T|C) at 10:57, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Page corruption[edit]

Same issue as here on french wiki: fr:Artisanat. Could you fix it, please ^^. – Scaler (t) 11:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Just delete and undelete the page. ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:29, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Done, thanks. – Scaler (t) 12:52, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

thumbnail[edit]

Our software is a little bit crazy. Sometimes he forgets where he save some images. A re-saving is bad a solution. An example: click ore click. -- Oliver Scholz Wiki Admin 01:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

About blocking wiki attacks[edit]

Every single month or so, there seems to be 2 or 3 days where there are attacks that get pass and damaging a lot of our pages, not only it is time consuming for us to undo their edits, it also uses a lot of edits. The Chinese wiki Bureaucrat, Craft Lawrence, and I were trying to make IP users unable to edit by half protecting all pages temporarily, but we can't find a way to do that in one edit yet. I am here to seek help and wanted to know if other administrators have any good ideas we could use to make the situation better. —Powup333 ZH Admin 15:14, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

If you want me to, I could look into your abuse filters and help out a bit with keeping things accurate (the version template for example). It's not too hard to recognize major amounts of vandalism so I figure it shouldn't be too hard.--Quatroking - MCWiki Administrator 19:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
that would help a lot.—Powup333 ZH Admin 22:43, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Redirect[edit]

Why the ru.wiki redirects to the minecraftforum.net? HEKP0H - ru.Wiki Admin 17:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

class collapsible[edit]

The collapsible class doesn't seem to work in the Chinese Wiki.—Powup333 ZH Admin 10:16, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Probably because Hzy980512 removed the JavaScript for it... ultradude25 (T|C) at 11:13, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I figured it out, it is because we don't have MediaWiki:CollapsibleTables.jsPowup333 ZH Admin 08:55, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I'd recommend having that in your main js file instead of split like we do. It'll be faster, due to it being minified and not having to open an extra HTTP connection. We only still have it split because I keep putting it off... (and I was expecting mw-collapsible to be working ages ago) ultradude25 (T|C) at 09:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice.—Powup333 ZH Admin 14:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Grid Template crash?[edit]

Hi! On pl.MCWiki, the Grid Template was stopped working last Friday (or Saturday?). Recently*, no one was edited the template or any related template. Now, Crafting page is totaly disaster! (* - I made some edits after this crash). IMHO someone changed something in the source (template MediaWiki). Example, we don't have jQuery implemented, but it must be for Grid animations. I request it on PivotTracer, but is it still used?? Lewandowskipl.Wiki Admin talk 11:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

jQuery is built in to MediaWiki now, and HtmlTidy was enabled on Friday. I believe the English wiki is working on cleaning up the Crafting grid template. I would check with Ultradude to see if this is what is causing the problem on the Polish wiki. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 11:51, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
We had some divs inside spans, which aren't allowed so HTMLTidy pulls them outside the spans (also empty tags get deleted, so in cases where you want empty tags, you need to put something in them, like &nbsp;), so most of the styling rules no longer apply to it, and it looks all broken. You just need to change any divs that are inside spans to spans, and set the styling to display: block. Or just copy the templates over, it was already all fixed here when HTMLTidy was enabled. ultradude25 (T|C) at 13:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Italian Wiki[edit]

Hello, admins!

You must add the link http://it.minecraftwiki.net/$1 in the table interwiki, in all wikis. Wynthyst said: The italian wiki will need to be added to each of the interwiki link tables

And yes, this is for the "In other languages" part on the navigation bar.

Spanish Wiki is done; don't worry.


Thanks! Kingpowl~ es. Wiki Admin (talk) 16:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Chinese Wiki registration problems[edit]

It's been reported lately that there are some issues for users in P.R.China, where they experience difficulties or simply cannot register.

It's keeping many potential contributors from participating in the Chinese wiki.

Is Wiki being blocked by the GFW, or it's just a technical issue about the CAPTCHA?

Anyways, can anyone verify this and help us to solve this problem? Thanks a lot!

Craft_Lawrence talk ZH Wiki Bureaucrat 16:34, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what the GFW is, and we have had some issues with the captcha, but those generally resolve themselves if they just keep trying. I will ask our Tech team to look into it. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 23:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
GFW is the abbreviation for "Great Fire Wall" of P.R.China, the largest internet censorship that exists. Our readers and contributors are mainly from mainland China, it's gonna be a big problem if the Wiki is blocked.... I live in Canada so really can't test it out myself, but I'll keep on tracking this issue. Thanks for your help! Craft_Lawrence talk ZH Wiki Bureaucrat 15:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Curse would like to recognize the work and dedication of the wiki community administrators with a token of our thanks. To do that, we need mailing information. Anyone wishing to participate, and receive our thank you gift should email me at wynthyst@gmail.com with your username, and real world mailing information. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 23:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Just as long as it's not an assassin sent to eliminate me... =D ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
The assassins won't fit in the mailbox. :/ Eyes 01:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm finally getting a Ferrari! woop! :U --Kizzycocoa 16:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Info has been sent. Thanks! --Quatroking - MCWiki Administrator 16:54, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Does the Chinese wiki community count too? We would be soooo happy to know our effort has not gone unnoticed :D. Craft_Lawrence talk ZH Wiki Bureaucrat 15:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
I ask the same, haha. Kingpowl~ es.Wiki Admin (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
I posted this here because it's for ALL Minecraft Wiki Admins... regardless of which language. -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 19:15, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
This is an exciting news!—Powup333 ZH Admin 19:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Wow, fantastic! I think is a bit soon for me (admin since August), but anyway I appreciate a lot this. Thank you, It's a pleasure for me helping in this wiki! I'll send you my mailing info soon, Wyn. Kingpowl~ es.Wiki Admin (talk) 20:17, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Wow, how kind are you =D --16px Hzy980512(T|C) 16px 03:59, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Back[edit]

Well things have quietened down now, so I'll be around at least over the holidays, hopefully longer.


I bring gifts too, in the form of some scripts that I worked on here and there while I was gone and have had floating around on my desktop for ages. The first script is already in my userspace, but I made a few changes that I'll be applying, and then I think it's ready for testing; it brings up a tooltip when you hover over the reference numbers containing the text of the reference. This means you're not having to jump all over the page to read references. I guess it will start out as opt-in just using a global var, and seeing how it goes change it over to opt-out and perhaps a proper options screen.

The second script is for us, since page corruption still happens as far as I'm aware, this script will delete and undelete the page for you (using the MW API). Also has the option to just delete the page, so you can select which revisions to restore manually. The delete link will be somewhere on the missing article page that comes up on corrupted pages.

And the third script allows you to include the content of one page into the other, but it is only downloaded when you click a button, thus allowing us to split large pages up, but still have the content viewable from the main page. This will help with pages such as crafting or mods.


If there's any changes while I was gone that I should know about, just post them here or tell me on IRC when I get it working. ultradude25Talk
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04:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back. =)
We got a new admin or two while you were gone, since most of the admins have been inactive or busy elsewhere; that's one of the biggest things I'm aware of, but I'm behind on everything (nothing new there =D ), so maybe there's something else I'm not aware of. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:32, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Ah good, Ortho is finally an admin. Expected him to get that long ago. ultradude25Talk
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06:05, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the vote of confidence. :) It's good to have you (and your CSS/Javascript/template expertise) back. -- Orthotope 12:38, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

A discovery[edit]

The Chinese wiki always experiences problem with the svg images, they are quite important as they were used in some of the commonly used templates, but it sometimes would create an error that says the thumbnail cannot be created and the error messages just ruins the page. Oddly, one of the user discovered that the error happens only when there is a even(or odd, I did not count it) amount of edits on the page, and the image will be fine on the next edit, and be broken again on the next edit, etc. It is such a strange bug....—Powup333 ZH Admin 17:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Some issues[edit]

We are experiencing some technical problems on Russian section. Firstly, the revert image version tool doesn't work, attepting to revert just has no effect, however, the wiki does not return error message. Also there is strange image caching behaviour (perhaps it's intended, I don't sure), the wiki sometimes shows wrong (previous) both thunbnails and full-sized pictures. And some of our users report that it is impossible to make large edits, server constantly returns "servers temporarily at capacity, there was an unexpected error on this page". Also original files of some svg images on en wiki seem to be missing (for example, this one). I hope these issues can be resolved. Norrius - ru.Wiki Admin 18:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Filter 5[edit]

While filter 5 does get a lot of the spam, it still occasionally misses those smaller spam pages, and even worse infinite blocks new users if they happen to make a large page with even one external link, which is probably their userpage.

The abuse filter unfortunately doesn't allow you to change the block times, so instead I think we should change the filter to just completely disallow external links in all namespaces for new users, without any blocking. This would catch all spam that adds a linked external url, and wouldn't cause any misblocks on new users. Instead, they'd just have to remove the external links and get themselves to autoconfirmed before they add them. It'd be good if when they get hit with the disallowed message, we can show a notice stating that they can only have external links once they are autoconfirmed too. ultradude25Talk
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06:38, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Template:Grid in german wiki[edit]

Hello! For some time the template:grid is broken in the German Minecraft Wiki. Numbers appear twice and colored. When I copy the template:gird from the English Minecraft Wiki, then no more numbers are displayed. Example File:ChickenSig.png ILeonTalk
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16px de.minecraftWiki Admin 10:23, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

The numbers are displayed twice because you're using older versions of the template with newer versions of the styling; the numbers don't display when you update because the syntax is different (read our docs); and the numbers are coloured because your styling is out of date. ultradude25Talk
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10:43, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
It works with debug=true. (Example). File:ChickenSig.png ILeonTalk
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16px de.minecraftWiki Admin 10:56, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Even with that it looks like you've got two different versions of the styling mixed together, or you've changed it. ultradude25Talk
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11:22, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:Version error in german Wiki[edit]

The 1.6.1 Pre linked on the main page (in the german Wiki) to Versionshistory/Classic. I don't know how I can solve this problem. Is this a common problem? Thanks File:ChickenSig.png ILeonTalk
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- de.Wiki Admin 09:58, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not certain, but I think de:Vorlage:Version link is trying to match specific case-sensitive strings. In the line below the "Otherwise, find special prefixes" comment, try replacing instances of #pos: {{{1}}} with #pos: {{ lc: {{{1}}} }} to make it case-insensitive. Nevermind, do what Ultra said. -- Orthotope talk 10:29, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks :) File:ChickenSig.png ILeonTalk
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- de.Wiki Admin 10:50, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Use Pre-release or pre instead of Pre.
Pre is matched as classic due to the first few versions of Minecraft. These matching issues should be worked out with the lua version of this template. ultradude25Talk
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10:51, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Ah, missed that subtlety; was wondering why it didn't lowercase everything already. Making it case-sensitive like this was evil. -- Orthotope talk 11:05, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
The redirect doesn't work. It will be redirected to Versionsgeschichte/Entwicklungsversionen#Bpre instead of Versionsgeschichte/Entwicklungsversionen#1.6.1pre. File:ChickenSig.png ILeonTalk
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- de.Wiki Admin 11:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
It seems pre is hooked directly to beta, since the template doesn't have any proper dev stage detection. Use Pre-release for now. ultradude25Talk
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11:48, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks File:ChickenSig.png ILeonTalk
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- de.Wiki Admin 12:11, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Template:Version link is a horrible travesty of template logic, and I'm probably more to blame for it than anyone else. It's been needing a proper rewrite basically since I half-assed my rewrite of it, but I'm more-or-less afraid of touching it again for fear of breaking what *does* work. Getting Lua should make the rewrite much more manageable, though, as Ultra alluded to. =C ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 12:38, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Even the lua version is rather difficult. There's so many variations of some versions, trying to link to the right pages with the right anchors is quite difficult without having a bunch of version specific code, or duplicating things. Maybe one day it will be able to work and be readable at the same time. ultradude25Talk
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13:13, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
I'd argue we just use this as an opportunity to properly clean up the version/anchor naming. List exactly what we need to look for/distinguish between (with recent versions getting precedence), code to that, change all the version history pages to match, and then perform a bot run to update transclusions of {{Version link}} as needed. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 13:35, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Well either way, I've put up the version of the module that works in all the cases I tried, but is an awful mess. Maybe a fresh set of eyes is what's needed to find some way to make it readable while retaining support for the same versions. ultradude25Talk
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10:43, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm not terribly confident I'll be able to pick up Lua very quickly/easily/well (the closest I come to anything like Lua is a flavor of TI-BASIC and a bit of Javascript); truth be told, as excited as I've been for this wiki (and others) to get Lua, I've also been somewhat anxious because of that. =C That's not to say I won't try, though, of course. I'll have a look at the code when I've had some sleep. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:32, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Migration to Gamepedia[edit]

Minecraft Wiki:Community portal/Migration to Gamepedia

Please take a few minutes to read the above and comment on the associated talk page. Thanks! -- Wynthyst Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png talk 15:31, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Dutch Admin and Dutch Filter questions[edit]

Hi,

As a Dutch admin, I want to ask you 2 questions.

1. Is there a way to make the filter so that it wouldn't block an admin when they put some "forbidden" filter words in. I tried to copy a page and got permablocked because of some of the words in it. I manage to fix my block.

2. I want to appoint someone to be an admin on the Dutch (NL) wiki. He is helping a lot and a lot on the Dutch wiki. It would be outdated by years without him and it would be easier if he got some rights to delete some pages. Now he is still dependent on me to do that. The other 3 admins aren't much online. 1 for a year, 1 for 2 years now and 1 who is sometimes randomly there. The name of the person is: "TheWombatGuru". Could you do this, or let someone do this for me?

- CrazyBliep NL Admin 14:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

1. Most of the abuse filters here have conditions like 'user_editcount < 10', so they only trigger for new or unregistered users. Testing for users being in the autoconfirmed group has a similar effect.
2. Wynthyst is pretty much the only person who can appoint admins. -- Orthotope talk 20:20, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I will ask her to do this for me if she wants it.

- CrazyBliep NL Admin 23:01, 10 August 2013 (UTC)